Because I’m a Rebel With No Clues

I think With No Clues sounds better Without A Clue. What do you think?

In answer to Jane’s sort-of question:

I started wondering who it is that wants romance redefined.

Me! *waves a hand and jumps excitedly* Me!

I think that the happy ever part is unnecessary. I’m not saying that HEAs should be banned, but I’m saying that a book shouldn’t have to have a HEA to make it a romance.

You may (NOT) start flaming me now.

8 Responses to “Because I’m a Rebel With No Clues”

  1. January 9, 2007 at 2:15 pm

    Well, I think you’re wrong but you already knew that. But since I’m older, wiser and have been reading romance longer than you’ve been alive, I win by default. Bwahahahahaha…

  2. January 9, 2007 at 2:39 pm

    I would respectfully disagree. I think a romantic story doesn’t necessarily have to have a happy ending. However, a (genre) Romance novel should. The hero dying at the end kinda negates the whole point of a Romance novel, imo. I have no problem with romantic stories where the hero dies, but I have a definite problem with it in my romance novels.

    The “Happily Ever After” has been the “promise” of Romance for decades; frankly, if I had to expect that the hero might die every time I picked one up, the genre would pretty well lose its allure for me.

  3. January 9, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Angie, I’ll grant you the wiser part. *g*

    Nonny, feel free to disagree! I don’t mind at all, as Angie will tell you. One day, I’ll write a post detailing why I don’t think it’s necessary, but the short form is that it’s a matter of HOW I read. I don’t pick up a book and think it’s a romance. I don’t even pick books by what I feel like reading, but in order of how it got on my TBR pile, or if it’s a library book, the due date.

  4. January 9, 2007 at 4:55 pm

    But if that’s the case, it’s not that romance doesn’t need a HEA it’s that you don’t need one. Because you’re saying you don’t look at the genre. And that’s something else entirely.

    For those people who do read in genre or by genre, there are a set of expectations that come along, whether you’re talking mystery, romance, cookbooks or science fiction.

    What you’re saying is that you don’t have expectations by genre classification because you don’t read by genre. And that’s a different rabbit entirely. Most readers read with expectations based on genre, just because you don’t doesn’t mean the romance genre shouldn’t expect a HEA. It sounds like it just means you’d be just as happy without any genre classification at all, lolol.

  5. January 9, 2007 at 7:34 pm

    May, I think most of the time you’re talking about ‘Love Stories’, not ‘Romances’. And I think that’s where the misunderstandings stem from. Like someone mentioned on the other website, a ‘love story’ doesn’t have to have a HEA ending. They can be tragic. A true romance MUST have a HEA. It doesn’t have to be traditional (ie marriage, babies, etc.), but it has to be heavily implied. I know I’m not going to change your mind on this subject. Wouldn’t even try. 😉 Just as long as you understand that this is how the majority of romance readers view the genre that’s all that is important. 🙂

  6. January 9, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    I’m going to have to second Angie’s comments. I’m like you. I don’t need the HEA. At all. But genre conventions are genre conventions, and your average romance reader is going to pick up a romance novel and expect a HEA. If they don’t get it, there’ll be hell to pay. Look at how many negative comments Bombshell got in its inaugural year from romance readers who picked up the books, expecting traditional HEA a la romantic suspense and not realizing the line was really female-centric action adventure.

  7. January 9, 2007 at 9:54 pm

    Angie said: But if that’s the case, it’s not that romance doesn’t need a HEA it’s that you don’t need one. Because you’re saying you don’t look at the genre. And that’s something else entirely.


    I do pay attention to genre as a reader, because across them are very different. For instance, I’m not going to find anything remotely close to epic fantasy in the romance section (unless I look at some e-books). 😉

    Urban fantasy and paranormal romance are very close these days, but there’s still a difference in regards to plot. In fantasy, the romantic aspect is a subplot, not the main plot (though in good books, they’re tied together).

    Sometimes I get tired of reading romances because, let’s face it, there’s a lot of similarity in paranormals across the board these days. Some stand out, but I’ve read several that just blend together. Meh.

    I tend to read romance for books that are “comfortable” in that I know the outcome at the end without actually “knowing” it. It’s kinda like how mystery readers expect the MC to figure out whodunit at the end, or how fantasy readers expect that the evil villain will be defeated at the end. 🙂

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